He's back! Maxx Crosby merged superthread

[Corleone]

Tank is full speed ahead!

[Goodtimes333]

They havent won anything with Maxx nor had a top level defense. That's not all on him but it's a fact regardless. If you nail the trade compensation you get back from a Maxx trade you're stylin. I don't give a f[raiders_icon]ck what Gruden and Mayock did with their trade assets. They aren't running the show anymore & that's the past. Obviously draft picks/fa signings are no given. It's also not a given that Maxx will stay healthy going forward or that he won't drop in production. I'm alright with the idea of both keeping him or trading. There's a win in either category and also risks. Worrying about his contract situation every few years is an annoyance

[Attyla]

The vid he posted playing basketball was published during the game. It's possible to pre-publish posts like that, so I won't say it's impossible. But I also saw Bowers on the sideline that game but not Maxx. Do you have proof?

Edit:

https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/story/ ... 939627007/

There was a video of him being there, I am not sure if it was tik tok or not, but it hit my feed.

[NoThanksSir]

There was a video of him being there, I am not sure if it was tik tok or not, but it hit my feed.

I edited my previous post. Pete Carroll confirmed in his post game interview he wasn't there. Assuming Levi Damien is reporting things honestly.

[NoThanksSir]

They havent won anything with Maxx nor had a top level defense. That's not all on him but it's a fact regardless. If you nail the trade compensation you get back from a Maxx trade you're stylin. I don't give a f[raiders_icon]ck what Gruden and Mayock did with their trade assets. They aren't running the show anymore & that's the past. Obviously draft picks/fa signings are no given. It's also not a given that Maxx will stay healthy going forward or that he won't drop in production. I'm alright with the idea of both keeping him or trading. There's a win in either category and also risks. Worrying about his contract situation every few years is an annoyance

Bolded part needs to be repeated. If someone will give us significant draft capitol for a guy who's knees have clearly seen better days, you absolutely take it. Mendoza shifts our timeline. We're planting a tree who's shade Maxx will never see. He's made it obvious how unhappy he is. It's in both side's interest to give him what he wants.

[BoKnows81]

Honestly Maxx should of went when his boy Pierce went. That's where he lost me. I don't really care about the podcast and all the other shit. Threatening to request a trade if we didn't hire Pierce combined with the return we will get = good f[raiders_icon]cking bye.

[raidersince63]

Along with drafting youngsters for OL and DL...I'd also like for the Raiders to use the cap space save from jettisoning Maxx, and use that money saved to acquire solid FAs at those positions.

With the draft we just never know how a college player will translate to the NFL. But with FAs we already know how good they are in this league because they're already proved it.

Draft a couple youngsters and let them mature under the tutelage of the vets, evaluate the draftees during camp and pre-season games, and maybe even give them some snaps at the right time during real games. We can spend some FA money on veterans to improve our OL and/or DL, and if we get lucky with 1 or 2 of this year's draftees we will end up having some solid depth on our roster which will benefit us if a starter goes down.

And let's not forget that near the end of last season PC finally gave some of the kids an opportunity to show what they can do...and some of them did quite well. So all in all, we may end up being more competent than we initially thought in the trenches.

[Attyla]

I edited my previous post. Pete Carroll confirmed in his post game interview he wasn't there. Assuming Levi Damien is reporting things honestly.

Maybe it was the previous game, I remember seeing video though.

[NoThanksSir]

Honestly Maxx should of went when his boy Pierce went. That's where he lost me. I don't really care about the podcast and all the other shit. Threatening to request a trade if we didn't hire Pierce combined with the return we will get = good f[raiders_icon]cking bye.

Yea the Pierce situation was rough. I wasn't one of the Raider fans convincing myself that guy was a legitimate coach because he let Maxx smoke stoagies in the locker room. I swallowed that situation because I did understand his frustration, we clearly f[raiders_icon]cked up with Josh. But it's become a trend for him, now. If we don't move him now when his value is high, it'll happen next year and maybe we get a 3rd rounder instead of a 1st.. It's not if, but when we end up in a hostage negotiation where he tanks any trade value we might recoup for him.

[NoThanksSir]

Maybe it was the previous game, I remember seeing video though.

I think you might be remembering the game after. Interestingly enough I think Maxx realized how bad his tantrum made him look and was on the sideline the next week. But the week he was shut down he was at home, staring at the altar of himself, shooting jumpshots.

[Attyla]

I think you might be remembering the game after. Interestingly enough I think Maxx realized how bad his tantrum made him look and was on the sideline the next week. But the week he was shut down he was at home, staring at the altar of himself, shooting jumpshots.

not sure, not sure it matters though

[Cruisin with Tooz]

I want the Jets 1st 2 picks in this draft, and I want next years 2nd

Jets are in rebuild mode. Why would they do this? And Cle has Garrett. Only options to get 2 1sts this year are Dal and Rams.

[NoThanksSir]

not sure, not sure it matters though

I disagree. He's a bad example for younger players to follow, and honestly overrated. Not a natural double sack a year guy. Knees keep needing to be drained, his best years are behind him and the good vibes are lost. Just trade him while you can.

[Reno Hightower]

Is Maxx really being a malcontent or is the media trying the manufacture mouse clicks? To be honest I haven't been following the social media stuff. I mean he did just finish a three win season-not sure he wants to throw a parade.

[NoThanksSir]

Is Maxx really being a malcontent or is the media trying the manufacture mouse clicks? To be honest I haven't been following the social media stuff. I mean he did just finish a three win season-not sure he wants to throw a parade.

Maxx has been publicly grappling with the idea of him not retiring a Raider for years now. He has a podcast episode where he records himself questioning his future if the Raiders didn't hire Antonio Pierce.

[Attyla]

I disagree. He's a bad example for younger players to follow, and honestly overrated. Not a natural double sack a year guy. Knees keep needing to be drained, his best years are behind him and the good vibes are lost. Just trade him while you can.

cool, not getting overly drawn into this, I am not a decision maker so I am just watching what happens. What happened under Carroll vs will happen under Kubiak are apples and oranges.