And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

[Xramfan]

Discuss…..

[Attyla]

I like Proctor. Versatility is definitely a plus.

Proctor and Linderbaum with Powers Johnson on the other side (provided he stays healthy) would be a great upgrade. I love Ioane if he is there but my gut says he might go to Miami who is also going to be in huge rebuild mode.

[Raiderman4]

If we can't land Linderbaum, do we draft a center? Jake Slaughter maybe. If he can't start at center right away maybe move him to guard with JPJ at center. Assuming we can get Ioane at 14.

No. This team needs to stop f[raiders_icon]cking around with JPJ and just play him at his natural position already.

[raider_kin]

Proctor and Linderbaum with Powers Johnson on the other side (provided he stays healthy) would be a great upgrade. I love Ioane if he is there but my gut says he might go to Miami who is also going to be in huge rebuild mode.

I'm starting to doubt Ioane being there at 14 as well.
AGGGHHHH now we have to wait until late April to find that out
To quote Inigo: I hate waiting.

PS I had to look up to check the spelling on that name and holy moly, that movie came out in 1987! Almost 40 years.

[Attyla]

I'm stating to doubt Ioane being there at 14 as well.
AGGGHHHH now we have to wait until late April to find that out

The problem with picking high is that you are competing with teams that are rebuilds. Rebuilds love linemen as base upgrades. Picks 2-9 are probably not going to take Ioane, but Cinci, Miami and Atlanta are ideal spots to take him. If he makes it to us, he will not be there at 15 is my guess.

[RickRyb]

Miller
Ioane / JPJ
Linderbaum
Rogers / JPJ
Eluemunor

[Be_Easy_25]

I’d much rather trade up than trade down, and I’m not against either theoretically.

Nonetheless, I’d much rather try to fill up our talent cup by trading up, than try to round out our roster by trading down.

Sonny Styles is a game changer—a franchise player. Even if he won’t be a career Raider, he’s likely to yield draft capital in a few years if we need to trade him.

I’m adding him to this roster 10/10 before I trade back to get an extra second to draft some slot corner from random B1G/SEC university.

[Hellbound]

Definitely not an ideal fit in a ZBS and yes, it gives me some pause. But, to me, he's the best O lineman in the draft.

Man, to me you don't necessarily have to cross him off of the list but he definitely needs to be ranked a bit lower if he's not a scheme fit. I mean what's the point of drafting someone if they're not a fit while others are? Maybe he can adapt, maybe he doesn't. I myself am going to draft the guy I know fits my scheme, especially in the top half of the first and a team that needs their picks to work out

Dude's a stud but if he isn't a fit, he isn't a fit and we're back to coaches trying to jam square pegs into round holes again. I myself am over that

[CWood24]

No. This team needs to stop f[raiders_icon]cking around with JPJ and just play him at his natural position already.

His natural position could be at OG alot of runours out there that JPJ wasn't calling protections when at C & that is a huge no no

If it is true then his natural position is at RG

Also his injury history would kill us more at C than RG as it is easier to replace

Keep him at RG, draft Ioane to play LT, sign Linderbaum at C & let Glaze/Grant battle it out at RT with some actual real coaching helping them

[CWood24]

No. This team needs to stop f[raiders_icon]cking around with JPJ and just play him at his natural position already.

His natural position could be at OG alot of runours out there that JPJ wasn't calling protections when at C & that is a huge no no

If it is true then his natural position is at RG

Also his injury history would kill us more at C than RG as it is easier to replace

Keep him at RG, draft Ioane to play LG, sign Linderbaum at C & let Glaze/Grant battle it out at RT with some actual real coaching helping them

[WNYRAIDER]

I’d much rather trade up than trade down, and I’m not against either theoretically.

Nonetheless, I’d much rather try to fill up our talent cup by trading up, than try to round out our roster by trading down.

Sonny Styles is a game changer—a franchise player. Even if he won’t be a career Raider, he’s likely to yield draft capital in a few years if we need to trade him.

I’m adding him to this roster 10/10 before I trade back to get an extra second to draft some slot corner from random B1G/SEC university.

...the problem with that is that so many are suggesting a real earlier to mid draft 'sweet spot ', and we have plenty of holes to fill, and not just as starters....

[KillerRaider30]

We really need some f[raiders_icon]cking news soon. We haven't had a major transaction since Friday.

Id be happy with some smoke

[KillerRaider30]

Hopefully the Grinch isn't on his way here.

You're a mean one

[chucker]

I know JPJ played center in college, but the way he fires off the ball and the power he plays with just screams to me that his natural position is guard. Just because a guy was playing somewhere, that doesn't make it his best position. It may have been the position where he was needed the most in college - where the demands of the position are also different than in the NFL. I love that JPJ has the stones that he demanded to play center as a rookie when Andre James was out, but that doesn't mean that it's actually the best fit for him. I've heard Lincoln Kennedy and Incognito comment that he should be playing guard and has potential to be a top guard.

[WNYRAIDER]

I know JPJ played center in college, but the way he fires off the ball and the power he plays with just screams to me that his natural position is guard. Just because a guy was playing somewhere, that doesn't make it his best position. It may have been the position where he was needed the most in college - where the demands of the position are also different than in the NFL. I love that JPJ has the stones that he demanded to play center as a rookie when Andre James was out, but that doesn't mean that it's actually the best fit for him. I've heard Lincoln Kennedy and Incognito comment that he should be playing guard and has potential to be a top guard.

...at this point, i'm not counting on it, but I would love to see the dude just get through a full season at any position, and give us hope that that (the annual IR thing) isn't just who he is....

[Attyla]

I know JPJ played center in college, but the way he fires off the ball and the power he plays with just screams to me that his natural position is guard. Just because a guy was playing somewhere, that doesn't make it his best position. It may have been the position where he was needed the most in college - where the demands of the position are also different than in the NFL. I love that JPJ has the stones that he demanded to play center as a rookie when Andre James was out, but that doesn't mean that it's actually the best fit for him. I've heard Lincoln Kennedy and Incognito comment that he should be playing guard and has potential to be a top guard.

I agree that his move to guard was correct. His coaching tanked him and he needs to protect his melon but he is a guard.