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Figured we can talk about the scheme that is wasting Jeanty, regressing Smith and frustrating the hell out of the fanbase. Not to mention Bech being wasted and a load of other issues.

Opoponax50 wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:20 pm I refuse to judge the guy yet.

Geno has 9 picks in 5 games. He's thrown into double and triple coverage, taken sacks that could've been throwaways and thrown glaring ints in clean pockets.

That's not on the OC, it's on the QB and possibly the QB coach.

It took a few weeks for the O-line to get its act together and it's looking better the past couple of weeks with respect to the run game and opening holes until we have no choice but to throw the ball.

Chip can't play the damn position for Geno and Geno's been around long enough so that he should know not to do stupid things with the ball.

All that said, I want Geno to stay in. He's getting us where we need to be draft-wise.

But I will judge him on play calling and confused lineman blocking eachother.Player usage.Seems to me hes trying to be the smartest in the room.Maybe due to his first year here he had not enough info to scout internally to put players in the best position.The qb play hasn't helped anything

Mckdaddy wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:40 pm But I will judge him on play calling and confused lineman blocking eachother.Player usage.Seems to me hes trying to be the smartest in the room.Maybe due to his first year here he had not enough info to scout internally to put players in the best position.The qb play hasn't helped anything

Agreed if it were just Geno it would be one thing, but the blocking scheme has been an unmitigated disaster. I say this as someone who was very high on Kelly. But good coaches adapt to the talent at their disposal, and it feels like we're watching these guys struggle while simply hoping eventually the light bulb will go on. He's earned his criticisms

NoThanksSir wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:43 pm Agreed if it were just Geno it would be one thing, but the blocking scheme has been an unmitigated disaster. I say this as someone who was very high on Kelly. But good coaches adapt to the talent at their disposal, and it feels like we're watching these guys struggle while simply hoping eventually the light bulb will go on. He's earned his criticisms

PLUS: so many "attitude problems."
After a while, so many means it's a coaching problem.

Opoponax50 wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:20 pm I refuse to judge the guy yet.

Geno has 9 picks in 5 games. He's thrown into double and triple coverage, taken sacks that could've been throwaways and thrown glaring ints in clean pockets.

That's not on the OC, it's on the QB and possibly the QB coach.

It took a few weeks for the O-line to get its act together and it's looking better the past couple of weeks with respect to the run game and opening holes until we have no choice but to throw the ball.

Chip can't play the damn position for Geno and Geno's been around long enough so that he should know not to do stupid things with the ball.

All that said, I want Geno to stay in. He's getting us where we need to be draft-wise.

Two things can be true at once.

Chip has been garbage. From playcalling to protection to adjustments.

Also another thing I've found weird about this staff...with Kelly and Philbin in the booth what kind of offensive leadership is on the sidelines? Brennan Carroll? It's real weird for the OC to be in the booth on a team with a defensive HC.

Should have never hired him...And then making him the highest paid OC?This team sure loves wasting $$$ on Turd players and Coaches.

The Shotgun runs are a complete shitshow,offense doesn't scheme guys open and it's not very creative...Stubborn OC who has never been great in the NFL,Stubborn HC who keeps forcing cover 3 on the DC,O-line and special teams are a disaster.

Why stop at kelly,fire them ALL I say!

When was the last time we had a LEGIT OC?Seriously.........When is the last time we had an even good coaching staff all around?

I don't know if the execution is on Chip, but he's the OC and it starts and ends with him. You just can't have your WR take out your RB on 4th and 1. Its unacceptable at the pro level..

If you have a struggling QB why do you call a pass play on 2nd and goal from the 2 yard line when you have taken your opening drive right down the field. Why wouldn’t you pound Jeanty twice with a lead blocker. Chip trying to outsmart everyone won’t work.

NoThanksSir wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:51 pm Also another thing I've found weird about this staff...with Kelly and Philbin in the booth what kind of offensive leadership is on the sidelines? Brennan Carroll? It's real weird for the OC to be in the booth on a team with a defensive HC.

That’s a good point and honestly have they ever shown Geno on the phone, maybe with the OC? I mean the offense is shit everywhere so who is responsible for talking to these guys after a failed drive?

BoKnows81 wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:49 pm Two things can be true at once.

Chip has been garbage. From playcalling to protection to adjustments.

Play calls can always be questioned, but it's the players that have to execute them. In every single game by every team in the league every Sunday, the OC is going to be a less than perfect play caller. A lot of what looks like bad play calling are the players failing to execute the basics. But like I said, I think the O-line is getting better. Also, receivers are getting open, but Geno isn't getting them the ball.

When you have a guy who's on pace to throw 31 interceptions, how can you tell if the OC's doing a good or bad job? Also, Geno was well known to be horrible in the red zone and as it stands currently, I believe we're the worst offense in the league in the red zone.

We don't have a QB on the roster right now that can play well enough to evaluate Kelly. I'm not saying he's the greatest OC to ever don the headphones, but it's pretty easy to see that our QB is doing everything he can to hurt the team (special teams isn't helping either).

Attyla wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 10:55 am Figured we can talk about the scheme that is wasting Jeanty, regressing Smith and frustrating the hell out of the fanbase. Not to mention Bech being wasted and a load of other issues.

ok, I'm with you on this. I'm still wondering why we hired him in the first place. Does his name imply stability? Along with Mr Gum Chewing and Mr it was a fumble?

ALLRAIDERWORLD21 wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 5:25 pm I don't know if the execution is on Chip, but he's the OC and it starts and ends with him. You just can't have your WR take out your RB on 4th and 1. Its unacceptable at the pro level..

Damn, didn't see the game but WTF??

raiderkoch wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 3:19 pm Sorry, I meant shotgun runs. Because again, it's known that they can run multiple plays out of a formation, so on the line calls by the QB. Do we know that he's not calling into those runs? Not sure

I did see the article calling out CK, so maybe it is 90% him. I'm just saying I'm not sure we know the whole story right now!

Totally agree that we do not know the whole story right now. I think they're keeping their circle closed and working the best they can on the deficiencies. It takes time.

I miss Gruden

WolfRaider wrote: Thu Oct 09, 2025 4:38 am I miss Gruden

Huh? As head coach? Odd.