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Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:01 pm
by BoKnows81
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Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2025 3:25 am
by Willmark
rcraider wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:03 pm This is why I feel it's even more important nowadays for college players to stay in school and get as much experience as they can, They are already behind the 8 ball in that modern college offenses don't prepare them for the NFL game. So getting playing time is now crucial
While not as relevant as it used to be, there are still uses for the Parcells methodology. Namely one thing it does well is filter out one-year wonders.

This guy does a good job adapting it for today: https://in-betweenmedia.com/ranking-the ... lls-rules/

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2025 8:03 am
by Reno Hightower
Willmark wrote: Sat Oct 11, 2025 3:25 am While not as relevant as it used to be, there are still uses for the Parcells methodology. Namely one thing it does well is filter out one-year wonders.

This guy does a good job adapting it for today: https://in-betweenmedia.com/ranking-the ... lls-rules/
I dunno.

Parcells drafted Drew Bledsoe in 1992. Drew had 29 (played as a true freshman) career starts and declared himself for the NFL draft after he was a junior. He didn't have the requisite completion percentage, TD to Int ratio or career wins.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... soe-1.html

I do like that criteria though. Parcells was notoriously demanding of his QB's.

I remember listening to a Bill Polian interview on Sirius XM with Pat Kirwan and he went through his pre draft requirements for a QB both on the field and off. Interesting stuff.

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 9:35 am
by Willmark
ToastPatterson wrote: Sat Oct 11, 2025 8:03 am I dunno.

Parcells drafted Drew Bledsoe in 1992. Drew had 29 (played as a true freshman) career starts and declared himself for the NFL draft after he was a junior. He didn't have the requisite completion percentage, TD to Int ratio or career wins.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... soe-1.html

I do like that criteria though. Parcells was notoriously demanding of his QB's.

I remember listening to a Bill Polian interview on Sirius XM with Pat Kirwan and he went through his pre draft requirements for a QB both on the field and off. Interesting stuff.
So you are agree or disagree? It appears you are saying it does matter but it doesn't?

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:16 pm
by The Real CK
:cuss: :pissed:

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:22 pm
by LayneStaley
The Real CK wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:16 pm :cuss: :pissed:
Baker turned out pretty well.

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:22 pm
by Reno Hightower
Willmark wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 9:35 am So you are agree or disagree? It appears you are saying it does matter but it doesn't?
I didn't do a very good job of explaining myself, my bad.

I agree that it is a solid criteria but there can be exceptions applied to certain QB's when evaluating the metrics.

Apparently that is what Parcels did with Bledsoe.

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:23 pm
by The Real CK
LayneStaley wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:22 pm Baker turned out pretty well.
Copium

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:24 pm
by The Real CK
LayneStaley wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:22 pm Baker turned out pretty well.
Copium.

Baker was a second-year QB, not a 12-year veteran.

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:25 pm
by LayneStaley
The Real CK wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:23 pmCopium

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:25 pm
by Willmark
ToastPatterson wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:22 pm I agree that it is a solid criteria but there are exceptions that should be applied when evalutating the metrics.

Apparently that is what Parcels did with Bledsoe.
I don't think its ever that solid, or at least to me. If a QB won 29 games as a starter I'm not holding it against him.

But as I note, it does filter out one-year wonders which is huge IMO. The other benefit is that it places an emphasis on the mental aspects of the game over physical.

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:26 pm
by The Real CK
LayneStaley wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:25 pm
Please don't post Attyla videos.

The public deserves better.

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:28 pm
by Reno Hightower
Willmark wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:25 pm I don't think its ever that solid, or at least to me. If a QB won 29 games as a starter I'm not holding it against him.

But as I note, it does filter out one-year wonders which is huge IMO. The other benefit is that it places an emphasis on the mental aspects of the game over physical.
I wish I could find Bill Polian's interview with Pat Kirwin regarding this very discussion. While Polian was very complimentary of Ryan Leaf's recovery and the good work he has been doing he also mentioned that Leaf wasn't in their draft plans even if Peyton Manning wasn't available regardless of their need for a QB.

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:31 pm
by The Real CK
Pathetic


Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:34 pm
by LayneStaley
You had to post ^ that in 2 threads. Tell us you need attention without saying you need attention.

Re: Geno Smith Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:36 pm
by The Real CK
LayneStaley wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:34 pm You had to post ^ that in 2 threads. Tell us you need attention without saying you need attention.
It is relevant to both threads.

You just don't like it because it paints Gina in a bad light.

Go mini-mod elsewhere.