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And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 6:56 pm
by Xramfan
Discuss…..

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:51 am
by Be_Easy_25
Is Fano a better fit for the outside zone scheme?

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:51 am
by mstrbass2000
Dr Death wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:15 am Who is available that you would consider over Linderbaum? I don't know much about any FA's to be honest. I just know what I read from other sites and YouTube.
all the other teams with centers available are now locking em all up and paying PREMIUM prices, lindenbaum is the top guy then it falls off a cliff leaving us will rookie center or jp whom i have no confidence can play center in teh nfl at a high level

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:54 am
by chucker
If Linderbaum makes the right protection calls and improves the effectiveness of our guards and the oline as a unit then it's a win. Make protection calls less of a responsibility for our young QB. I am not the least bit afraid of making Linderbaum the highest paid center in football.

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:54 am
by WNYRAIDER
mstrbass2000 wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:47 am who cares we got 119-128 million to spend and dudes a for sure improvement to our whole oline...mendoza deserves a good oline to start his career

.....regardless of what side of this discussion that anyone is on, I think everyone should agree that 'who cares' when it comes to managing the cap now, and later, is stupid.

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:57 am
by WNYRAIDER
Rabidraider wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:49 am 26 pressures over 17 games is 1.52 per game on average. Where does that land vs our centers last year and the rest of the league? Mendoza has a quick release, I would expect that number could go down.

People are throwing out 7 million over, but I think it will be more like 2-3 million.

...whatever happens, I trust in our new head coach, who, for all any of us know, isn't even looking at linderbaum, or on the flip side, he may be his number one target. ...we shall see very soon...

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:59 am
by mstrbass2000
WNYRAIDER wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:32 am Tyler Linderbaum's struggles in pass protection, particularly noted in 2024 and 2025, have primarily been attributed to his physical limitations against power-rushers, leading to a disparity between his elite run-blocking ability and his average-to-below-average pass-blocking grades. While considered a top center overall, his pass-blocking has faced scrutiny, with 26 pressures allowed in 2025."

...no one wants us to 'fk around with the o line', but with the above statistical realities , and the suggested need to have to commit a projected 7 million more a year for him than the next highest paid at that position, and to apparently still not feel so comfortable after the fact, or to still have to have near top guards on either side to compensate for his physical limitations, I hope they take a long look elsewhere.
2025 Regular Season Highlights (PFF Grades):
Center: Tyler Linderbaum was the elite performer, consistently graded as one of the best centers in the league.
Tackles: Ronnie Stanley and rookie Roger Rosengarten showed solid play, with Rosengarten improving significantly from early-season struggles to becoming a consistent starter.
Guards: The guard positions (Andrew Vorhees, Daniel Faalele) had lower grades, often ranking in the 50s-60s.
Performance: The unit went from a low ranking in the first seven weeks to peaking for the playoffs.
Baltimore Ravens
Baltimore Ravens
+4

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:02 am
by mstrbass2000
WNYRAIDER wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:54 am .....regardless of what side of this discussion that anyone is on, I think everyone should agree that 'who cares' when it comes to managing the cap now, and later, is stupid.
yeah, we managed the cap for yrs and our oline stunk and team stunk ...managing the cap doesn't mean being a penny pincher, if there is a guy that helps improve a weakness you go get him

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:02 am
by chucker
WNYRAIDER wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:57 am ...whatever happens, I trust in our new head coach, who, for all any of us know, isn't even looking at linderbaum, or on the flip side, he may be his number one target. ...we shall see very soon...
It's nice to be able to figure things out, but I have to agree that we really don't know what Kubiak is thinking. We know he values a really smart center - we don't know if he's looking at Linderbaum as that guy, another FA center, or some random guard who's never even played the position. The next few days could shed a lot of light on it.

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:04 am
by CWood24
Kayden MacDonald is slowly moving up & getting into to that 14 range, seen him at around 20-25 but recently saw a few mocks where he is getting into the teens

I knew he had a good anchor in the little i saw of him but actually watching him & break downs of him he is like a wall in the NT role

If you need an anchor to build a defence around MacDonald at 14 would be a good pick

Before i get shit i personally want Ioane but if not him then MacDonald could be a cornerstone type player with high upside if you can develop his pass rush

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:04 am
by mstrbass2000
Rabidraider wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:49 am 26 pressures over 17 games is 1.52 per game on average. Where does that land vs our centers last year and the rest of the league? Mendoza has a quick release, I would expect that number could go down.

People are throwing out 7 million over, but I think it will be more like 2-3 million.
tyler was flanked by piss poor guards to the right and left of him, im sure that affected his play

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:06 am
by BoKnows81
WNYRAIDER wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:43 am ...i'm sorry if I hurt your feelings with the reality of what I shared, but with our new hc's recent past in Seattle, it seems like he might just be the guy who can come up with a better plan than to grossly overspending for a name whose last few years of stats do not seem to match up to the impressions of some of local experts, and for what might be in the best interests of our new rookie face of the franchise.
I dont get my feelings hurt on here bud. All good. Lindy will fare much better here without that overrated RB/QB Lamar Jackson running all over the place.

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:06 am
by Hellbound
BoKnows81 wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:19 am To be fair, Baltimore may not let him walk at all. I get the concerns but im sorry, there's not a center currently available that I would feel more comfortable with in front of our QB right now then Linderbaum. To me, he's worth the money IF hes available. Can we draft one? Sure. Im just saying they cant f[raiders_icon]ck around with the O line. Address it.
Agreed and don't get me wrong, I'd definitely give him the bag to anchor the line. Im just saying he's not the dominant center that some may think he is. He has concerning flaw is all Im saying

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:12 am
by Hellbound
Dr Death wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 8:15 am Who is available that you would consider over Linderbaum? I don't know much about any FA's to be honest. I just know what I read from other sites and YouTube.
He's the best center on the market. He's going to get paid and it's probably going to be elite money. He's not an elite center imo and has problems in pass pro and always has. That's all Im saying. I myself would've went after McGovern if the price for Linderbaum was too high. Obviously that's not an option anymore

I'd still be more than happy with Linderbaum, I just don't think he's worth the money that he's probably going to get

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:13 am
by chucker
Hellbound wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:06 am Agreed and don't get me wrong, I'd definitely give him the bag to anchor the line. Im just saying he's not the dominant center that some may think he is. He has concerning flaw is all Im saying
That's a reasonable take. Linderbaum absolutely has weaknesses. I've mentioned it before that he'll catch grief on this site when he gets overpowered at times. On balance he's still a huge improvement at a huge need.

Re: And with the 14th pick the Raiders select…..

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:14 am
by WNYRAIDER
mstrbass2000 wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2026 9:04 am tyler was flanked by piss poor guards to the right and left of him, im sure that affected his play

...you may be right, but if it is in the range projected a year, you can only invest so much in an o line and sustain that for long at all, and with that type investment, how much more do you expect to have to need to spend for the 2 guys beside him? ...it has to all be a part of the consideration.....as I said, who knows, but i'll bet that our new HC has at least a plan regarding this, and will try and go forward with that plan regardless of any of the post here.
...and to be fair, in the end, we also don't know until we know, regarding the end numbers he will get, wherever.
....as I have said, I would have loved McGovern for 13 a year, buy that ship has obviously sailed....but I also think there are more of those in the pipeline, only with names less familiar to us here....