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I’m not advocating being evil. I’m saying it’s possible to be good, kind, compassionate, moral, upstanding, AND intelligent. Doofus never implemented the intelligence part. Which is why the team has sucked under his guidance.NoThanksSir wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 11:51 am We have more championships than Baltimore and the Davis family can hold their head high knowing they treated their employees like humans with families. You can take the Ravens, I'll keep losing with a team I'm proud to be a fan of
For me, Doofus has never seemed to be as sharp and cunning as Al...pretty sure Mark "rode the short bus".GoodTimeCharlie wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 2:38 pm I’m not advocating being evil. I’m saying it’s possible to be good, kind, compassionate, moral, upstanding, AND intelligent. Doofus never implemented the intelligence part. Which is why the team has sucked under his guidance.
Also, let’s not heap too much praise to his goodwill ambassadorship lest you forget there’s been at least 10 lawsuits filed against the Raiders for Discrimination, Wage/Labor Violations, Retaliation and Harassment Allegations, since 2013. “Toxic Workplace” was used multiple times amongst the lawsuits.
Since you brought up the Ravens. That’s you, not me. The Ravens have had 1 notable lawsuit that included the entirety of the NFL by cheerleaders filed in 2017.
Mark Davis has been a failure. Big Al in his later years was a failure. It’s been a shitshow. I have no idea what you’re holding your head up proud for unless it’s early Al accomplishments. And early Al is the reason ALL of us are here. Those days are long gone.
Definitely not nearly as sharp but also seems to be likableraidersince63 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 2:43 pm For me, Doofus has never seemed to be as sharp and cunning as Al...pretty sure Mark "rode the short bus".
Yeah, and I'm kind of surprised he does not have any children, his own or adopted.
Right, you aren't directly involved.Xramfan wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 2:25 pm Funny, all those great seasons with the old badasses I never once pondered how the players “felt treated” or how the families of the players felt.
Just win baby
I’m a fan of a team that I want to win the Super Bowl.
Well I disagree that Mark has been a failure. Your experience may differ from mine, but I've actually enjoyed the product far more since Mark took over. We all understand Al fell apart at the end. You're beating a dead horse there. Sure we are still trying to put things together since the move to Vegas but I think the brand is in a healthy place. The Mark Davis hate is low IQ playground bullying because the guy has a bad haircut.GoodTimeCharlie wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 2:38 pm I’m not advocating being evil. I’m saying it’s possible to be good, kind, compassionate, moral, upstanding, AND intelligent. Doofus never implemented the intelligence part. Which is why the team has sucked under his guidance.
Also, let’s not heap too much praise to his goodwill ambassadorship lest you forget there’s been at least 10 lawsuits filed against the Raiders for Discrimination-Wage/Labor Violations-Retaliation and Harassment Allegations, since 2013. “Toxic Workplace” was used multiple times amongst the lawsuits.
Since you brought up the Ravens. That’s you, not me. The Ravens have had 1 notable lawsuit that included the entirety of the NFL by cheerleaders filed in 2017.
Mark Davis has been a failure. Big Al in his later years was a failure. It’s been a shitshow. I have no idea what you’re holding your head up proud for unless it’s early Al accomplishments. And early Al is the reason ALL of us are here. Those days are long gone.
The "bad haircut" thing has nothing to do with my lack of patience for Mark and there's no "hate" eitherNoThanksSir wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 4:24 pm Well I disagree that Mark has been a failure. Your experience may differ from mine, but I've actually enjoyed the product far more since Mark took over. We all understand Al fell apart at the end. You're beating a dead horse there. Sure we are still trying to put things together since the move to Vegas but I think the brand is in a healthy place. The Mark Davis hate is low IQ playground bullying because the guy has a bad haircut.
disagree, mark has been a genius as owner of the raiders franchise from teh business since of things, way more genius then his father al davis ever was, now on the football side its completely the oppositeraidersince63 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 2:43 pm For me, Doofus has never seemed to be as sharp and cunning as Al...pretty sure Mark "rode the short bus".
Oh, I'm sorry...I thought we were talking about football.mstrbass2000 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 4:37 pm disagree, mark has been a genius as owner of the raiders franchise from teh business since of things, way more genius then his father al davis ever was, now on the football side its completely the opposite
dude deserves a lot of credit in turning around the value of the raiders, when mark took over the team we had a net worth of under a billion, then he made the move outta oakland, outmaneuvered sheldon adelson a dude worth 40 billion, got nevada to fork over to build teh stadium and got all the rights to it, now vegas is the highest priced ticket in teh n.f.l and its brand worth is close to 10 billion dollars, anyone think al davis could have done that ??? hell no he got swindled multiple times by los angeles and oaklandNoThanksSir wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 4:24 pm Well I disagree that Mark has been a failure. Your experience may differ from mine, but I've actually enjoyed the product far more since Mark took over. We all understand Al fell apart at the end. You're beating a dead horse there. Sure we are still trying to put things together since the move to Vegas but I think the brand is in a healthy place. The Mark Davis hate is low IQ playground bullying because the guy has a bad haircut.
we r talking about football, there is 2 sides to it the business side and the product side, mark has been brilliant on teh business side of it he grew it from aorund 750 million to 10 billion id put him at the genius side of itraidersince63 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 4:41 pm Oh, I'm sorry...I thought we were talking about football.
The Raiders business has thrived in spite of Mark, not because of Mark. His good fortune has been made on the back of his Father, and the city of Las Vegas.mstrbass2000 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 4:44 pm we r talking about football, there is 2 sides to it the business side and the product side, mark has been brilliant on teh business side of it he grew it from aorund 750 million to 10 billion id put him at the genius side of it