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This team doesn’t deserve them.

SuperRaider wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 8:20 am Mark should test the water and see if Kiffin would come back and coach the raiders; he doing pretty good in college as HC….and he would know the right players to draft in 2026

Kiffin would tell Mark to go pound sand. Unless Mark can troll for a promising young head coach at PF Changs we aint getting one.

FlyBono24 wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:59 pm These assholes at the ticket sales are actually calling me to renew my ST's next year.... yeah fcking right.
At least in the past I could get my money back or make a profit on games I don't attend. It's dwindling down year after year though.

This year we canceled plans for the 2 games we originally planned (they lost BOTh so good call there) and I didn't sell tickets to either of those games, and still haven't sold the Browns game so I'll probably LOSE MONEY this year!!

fck THAT!!

Those Browns tickets might be as hard to get rid of as a Carr jersey. Sorry dude

ToastPatterson wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 8:23 am Kiffin would tell Mark to go pound sand. Unless Mark can troll for a promising young head coach at PF Changs we aint getting one.

No one wants to come coach this team which is how we ended up with Pete. And then another problem I have is this front office drafts two 3rd round pick linemen and they're telling us that they are not as good as the slugs that are out on the field now? Then they absolutely wasted two 3rd round picks.

They suck.

Blow. It. Up.

How many players do we have that actually deserve to stay on the team? Crosby, Bowers, Miller, Jeanty, Mayer, Tucker, possibly Booker and Butler - maybe, and I say maybe AOC as a cheap backup. Who knows about the rookies because we haven’t seen enough of them yet.

We are an expansion team with decent draft capital and lots of cash. The only way I see a decent coach coming here is if we had a starting caliber Qb - but still, we literally have no line to protect him. Ben Johnson went to the Bears because of Williams and the weapons he had. He was smart doing it.

I would love to have an offensive minded coach and I’d be calling Steve Sarkisian. Who else you gonna convince to come here, and he might tell us to take a flying fuk too.

GoodTimeCharlie wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 9:52 pm There isn’t.
Browns last playoff win, 2021
Titans last playoff win, 2020

Dammit! You are correct.

The Real CK wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:51 am Twice this season, a team took a knee inside the 10-yard line on us before the two minute warning.

Maximum humiliation.

Nothing will ever beat the Chiefs “Ring Around the Rosie” play on us. Not saying you are wrong but I will never forget the feeling of watching that play.

Ocoordinator wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 9:43 am Blow. It. Up.

How many players do we have that actually deserve to stay on the team? Crosby, Bowers, Miller, Jeanty, Mayer, Tucker, possibly Booker and Butler - maybe, and I say maybe AOC as a cheap backup. Who knows about the rookies because we haven’t seen enough of them yet.

We are an expansion team with decent draft capital and lots of cash. The only way I see a decent coach coming here is if we had a starting caliber Qb - but still, we literally have no line to protect him. Ben Johnson went to the Bears because of Williams and the weapons he had. He was smart doing it.

I would love to have an offensive minded coach and I’d be calling Steve Sarkisian. Who else you gonna convince to come here, and he might tell us to take a flying fuk too.

5-6 players max. 4 for sure. It will all stay the same until the people in charge stop wasting draft picks and wasting cap space on busts.

I really don’t see Davis paying 4 HCs next year lol. I used to think there was no way it’s MD but he’s the only common denominator over the past 20 years.

It’s 100% Mark Davis. Always has been since the day Al passed. It appears Al was right to keep him away from team operations as he knew his kid was an idiot. He actually started out the right way hiring McKenzie to build the team. Reggie built a team that could win in the trenches but Davis started to meddle more and more until we got to where things are today which is considerably worse than the 2016 team Reggie built.

heavyD wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:21 am It’s 100% Mark Davis. Always has been since the day Al passed. It appears Al was right to keep him away from team operations as he knew his kid was an idiot. He actually started out the right way hiring McKenzie to build the team. Reggie built a team that could win in the trenches but Davis started to meddle more and more until we got to where things are today which is considerably worse than the 2016 team Reggie built.

He did right seeking help from former Al confidants in Wolf, Madden. Then hiring Reggie. Unfortunately, the cupboard was bare, even the office equipment, rooms, needed to be gutted and brought up into the 2000's. The practice field was piss poor until Reggie got there, he brought us up to NFL standards. Team building, he was building a nice group, both lines, Penn-Jackson-Hudson, Howard, Osemele were all added through the years. His picks have lasted in this league a long time, from Shelby Harris to Autry to Mario Edwards to Jihad Ward. I think if you give him a few more years, the depth would have been top of the line. Mark saw an old girlfriend in Gruden and wanted to make a splash, then another splash with McDaniels. Hire the d@mn GM and give him autonomy on how to set up the relationships. The only time he did that, was with Reggie. Mayock with Gruden, McDaniels with Ziegler, Pierce with Telesco and now supposedly Carroll with Spytek.

Ocoordinator wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 9:43 am Blow. It. Up.

Can you blow something up that’s already pretty much at rock bottom? I mean how do we go lower than this?

Jeevo wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:37 am Can you blow something up that’s already pretty much at rock bottom? I mean how do we go lower than this?

Get blown out by the Browns.

Oaktownonly wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:02 pm Get blown out by the Browns.

Lmao. THIS.

BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:16 am Im confused. You say the team needs to be torn down completely and rebuilt by someone who can but you and I both know that's not happening. Mark is not selling the team. Nothing is changing without stability from an experienced staff but you say we're not a coaching staff away from being good? You seem to contradict yourself multiple times in that post.

I will ask you the same question I've asked others. Out of those 11 HCs in the last 20 years, how many were worth a damn? They all deserved to be fired. Just like the QB, you keep trying until you get the right guy. I'd be half willing to agree with you if Pete wasnt fcking 75 years old and we had time. We dont, not with him. And Chip, yea, he doesn't belong in the NFL. If that wasnt clear to you last night than I dont know what to tell you.

I didn't state anything contradictory. This team is full of subpar players and players that don't fit what this coaching staff wants to do. Therefore, bringing yet another coaching staff into the picture all but guarantees another one and done staff. Then we'd have to bring in the next staff.

I don't care about past coaches. It doesn't stand to reason that past events regarding coaches and players who aren't here will influence future outcomes. Put another way, Saying X has happened this way in the past, therefore it will happen this way in the future is a non sequitur when presented as a certainty without any evidence that the future will be the same as the past. Finally, even if this staff does turn out to be shit, fallacious thinking isn't justified.

I also don't care that you "don't know what to tell me." You can't fairly evaluate an OC working with objectively shit players like Geno and [name anyone on the O-line]. The answer isn't to shitcan the entire staff. The only person I'd be in favor of shitcanning is Carrol's son. It was a terrible decision and any OC should have a big say in who the O-line coach should be. That would be a fair opportunity for Chip to better show what his O is capable of.

heavyD wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:21 am It’s 100% Mark Davis. Always has been since the day Al passed. It appears Al was right to keep him away from team operations as he knew his kid was an idiot. He actually started out the right way hiring McKenzie to build the team. Reggie built a team that could win in the trenches but Davis started to meddle more and more until we got to where things are today which is considerably worse than the 2016 team Reggie built.

Yeah, it all began with his premature firing of Del Rio and subsequent hiring of Gruden. Throw in The Turd's disastrous input that got Del Rio and our OC fired and replaced with The Turd's buddy, and it all headed south fast.

Jeevo wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:37 am Can you blow something up that’s already pretty much at rock bottom? I mean how do we go lower than this?

By admitting it’s a rebuild, getting rid of everyone I didn’t reference, by getting rid of coaches and schemes that don’t or haven’t worked for literally decades.

That’s. How. You. Blow. It. Up.