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In a lot of ways, this season has been a major success.

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 6:23 am
by heavyD
Title sounds silly but hear me out. The Vegas odds on the Raiders 2025 regular season record was 7.5 so lets say the Raiders meet expectations and win 7 or 8 games with a mediocre Geno Smith and 74 year old Pete Carroll who clearly isn't the coach he used to be. The organization would have likely been compelled to bring it all back for the 2026 season and keep going with the Band-Aid QB approach, once again not drafting a QB in the first round as they would be picking around 15/16. It's very possible the 2026 season could have melted down like this one with Pete being a year older, Smith being older and worse, etc. Bottom line is that the organization would continue treading the waters of losing and mediocrity. Seems like this season was always the eventual conclusion to the Carroll/Smith experiment and giving them another season would have been simply kicking the can down the road and going through this one year later.

As of now everything is clear going into the offseason. There will be no tough decisions on the coaching staff or starting QB. They are both gone and the team will very likely draft a QB with their top 3 pick. Now that in itself doesn't guarantee anything, but it's very clear that the veteran QB Band-Aid approach is not working and to unearth the next franchise QB, you have to draft them. It may not work out but they have to try or the seasons will continue to be pointless. Also a top 3 pick is going to be attractive to top head coach candidates as they know a rookie QB buys them time and it's an opportunity to build around their guy. Maybe, just maybe, the Raiders finally get something right in the offseason finding their QB and head coach. The odds are probably slim because a lot of QB's bust and Mark Davis is still in the building, but really it's the first time in a long time there is truly hope for better as there's real opportunity here for the organization to lay down the foundation to better days.

Re: In a lot of ways, this season has been a major success.

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 3:55 am
by wymanv
The Raiders are now 434-435-6 since the 1970 merger. This is now a losing franchise with no answer in sight.

Not sure if "success" is the word...

Re: In a lot of ways, this season has been a major success.

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 6:54 am
by Attyla
I have avoided this thread until now because I am not a fan of losing for a pick, no matter how good the guy at the top is. I have maintained for years that good teams are good because they draft well, period. No matter where they slot up, they get the right guy. I look at the current list of starting QBs and many are not top picks. And some pretty good one's are in that group. Guys like Herbert and Love (Love is not my favorite guy but he is solid) are in that group. We are just notoriously bad at the draft going back decades.

I look at the team and am amazed at the level of incompetence. Even by accident we should not have the record we have had since 1986. We have played 640 games in that span (not including our playoff games) and have won 273 games by my count. That is a win percentage of 42.3% wins. The Browns by contrast in that same span are 35% win rate. And the lovely Jets? Not far off of us at 42%. I guess misery loves company.

OK, lose out and get Mendoza, but get him a line and a competent staff around him. Just once, let's get this right.