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Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:56 pm
by RaiderandBulldog

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:31 am
by GoodTimeCharlie
[quote=352Raider post_id=1054155]Quarterback ratings

How this works: This forecast is based on 50,000 simulations of the season and updates after every game. Our traditional model uses Elo ratings (a measure of strength based on head-to-head results and quality of opponent) to calculate teams’ chances of winning their regular-season games and advancing to and through the playoffs. Our quarterback-adjusted Elo model incorporates news reports to project likely starters for every upcoming game and uses our quarterback Elo ratings to adjust win probabilities for those games. A team’s current quarterback adjustment is based on its likely starter in its next game and how much better or worse that QB is than the team’s top starter. Full methodology »

Game metrics are on a 0-100 scale. Quality is determined by the harmonic mean of the teams’ Elo ratings; importance measures how much the result will alter playoff projections; the overall number is the average of the quality and importance values.

Factoring in Russell Wilson on the Broncos now, Carr is definitely the #4 QB in the division at this point.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... rterbacks/[/quote]Not in the least bit surprised to see Minshew all of 1 point below our golden boy shit-stain at about 1/10th the cost. That’s BEFORE some terrible f[raiders_icon]cked-up franchise-ruining contract extension.

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:38 am
by 352Raider
Trubisky is 22 points higher than Carr at far less money :hushed:

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:00 am
by GoodTimeCharlie
[quote=352Raider post_id=1054197]Trubisky is 22 points higher than Carr at far less money :hushed:[/quote]And just got signed by the Steelers. Damn.

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:01 am
by Raider727
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Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:07 am
by 352Raider
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Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:21 am
by Raider727
Still don't want Adams, rather the Raiders pickup JC Jackson and Chark.

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:27 am
by NoClapsPlease
Need adams, chark and jackson tbh.

Do all 3.

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:06 pm
by Opoponax50
[quote=352Raider post_id=1054197]Trubisky is 22 points higher than Carr at far less money :hushed:[/quote]I'd rather have Carr than Trubisky, without a doubt.

That said, if we're talking $35-$40 million, I want a QB that's up where Herbert is rated on that chart. If not, then a cheap Trubisky would be better.

It's all about point production and making plays. If we can the same production and playmaking for 1/8 the cost, that's what we should do until we can find a true playmaker at the position.

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:18 pm
by NoThanksSir
[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1054245]Need adams, chark and jackson tbh.

Do all 3.[/quote]How? You're talking close to $70 mill in cap needed to sign all 3.

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:32 pm
by Attyla
[quote=NoThanksSir post_id=1054312]How? You're talking close to $70 mill in cap needed to sign all 3.[/quote]Adams alone would be tough on our cap

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:33 pm
by 352Raider
[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1054245]Need adams, chark and jackson tbh.

Do all 3.[/quote]This isn't Madden 22

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:43 pm
by NoThanksSir
[quote=352Raider post_id=1054318]This isn't Madden 22[/quote]For real. That comment puts into perspective those with the opinion that Carr just needs a better supporting cast in order to succeed. Sure, if we could go 40 million over the cap then just maybe we could hide Carr's deficiencies.

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:46 pm
by live.B.A.raida
Carr needs all pros all over the roster so he can win.

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:58 pm
by CWood24
If Carr is indeed the QB for the new regime then they need to tell him if he really wants Adams then needs to take the Brady discount & sign for 20 mil , Adams & Carr for 40 sounds about right although i think Adams is a little overrated

Adams would be a waste of money you could draft a WR & sign a couple of vet for that money & spread the production which would make you far better

Re: The essential ABC thread (formerly the future ex-QB thread)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:03 pm
by GoodTimeCharlie
[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1054309]I'd rather have Carr than Trubisky, without a doubt.

That said, if we're talking $35-$40 million, I want a QB that's up where Herbert is rated on that chart. If not, then a cheap Trubisky would be better.

It's all about point production and making plays. If we can the same production and playmaking for 1/8 the cost, that's what we should do until we can find a true playmaker at the position.[/quote]I would definitely have preferred Trubisky. Much cheaper, and he has something Carr hasn’t had in years. The possibility of something more.

Tru signed a 2 year contract. Steelers are set up to make a run at QB in the ‘23 draft if it doesn’t work out. No muss. No fuss.

Here we are heading into another “Season at Bernies” with a comatose franchise due to a code-blue quarterback.