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The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 6:18 pm
by erickench
Mike Tice once said while coaching for the Raiders: “If you look at the offense like a fancy car, the offensive line is the engine. Even though we might have nice spinners and nice rims and tinted windows and some neat paint job, it doesn’t mean crap without the engine. If the engine’s not working, the car might look like a pretty nice car, but it’s a piece of crap.” And he was 100% right. I wish we had him back. Changes must be made on the O-line. Charles Grant is a very athletic lineman. We should give him some reps at right tackle. Bring back Powers-Johnson as the starter at center. Parham has got to go. Maybe we should consider moving Meredith back to guard. He did so well there last year. :cuss:

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:11 pm
by rich72
Carrol should be in panic mode right now and Chip Kelly should be on the hot seat. I want to see some roster/ coaching changes. Fire the waterboy at least or something.

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:28 pm
by GoodTimeCharlie
”59 Percent
Dropbacks in Which Geno Smith Faced Pressure
No quarterback has faced more pressure in a single game this season than Smith did in the Raiders’ 41-24 blowout loss to Washington on Sunday. Through the first three quarters, Smith was pressured on 64 percent of his dropbacks. He completed just 4-of-9 passes for 32 yards and took five sacks when pressured, and Las Vegas entered the fourth quarter trailing 34-10. Smith padded his overall stats with 165 passing yards and two touchdowns in garbage time, but the game never seemed close because of the mismatch between his offensive line and the Washington defense.

Commanders head coach Dan Quinn had a lot of success switching up his fronts, oftentimes walking linebackers Bobby Wagner and Frankie Luvu to the line of scrimmage and rushing his defensive linemen from different alignments. Wagner generated five pressures on just six (!) pass rushing snaps, including two plays in which he was left completely unblocked up the middle. Defensive tackle Daron Payne was a one-man wrecking crew, totaling a team-high seven pressures, and both Dorance Armstrong and 36-year-old Von Miller had multiple pressures against Raiders right tackle DJ Glaze. It was a lopsided beatdown; Las Vegas’s front five was overpowered, and the Raiders coaches were outschemed.

Left tackle Kolton Miller is still a relative bright spot for the Raiders up front, but Glaze is a clear liability, center Jordan Meredith is replacement level (at best), and four-year starter Dylan Parham is one of the lowest-graded guards in the league. Second-year guard Jackson Powers-Johnson was off the injury report after missing Week 2 with a concussion, but head coach Pete Carroll said that he wanted “continuity” after a short week and started veteran backup Alex Cappa again instead. Payne demolished Cappa for most of the game, and Cappa finished with the most pressures allowed of any guard in Week 3 (seven). Possibly compounding these issues is the fact that Pete and his son, offensive line coach Brennan Carroll, had moved Parham, Meredith, and Powers-Johnson to new positions before the season. The entire unit is a mess, one that neither of the Carrolls might be able to solve. The last time the two coached together in Seattle (2015-20), the team ranked dead last in pressure rate allowed. And even though Smith has faced pressure at the fourth-highest rate (43 percent) among starting quarterbacks this season, somehow, Raiders rookie running back Ashton Jeanty has had it worse.

68 Percent
Carries in Which Ashton Jeanty Was Hit at or Behind the Line of Scrimmage
The Raiders’ first-round pick running back has had flashes of brilliance, including multiple runs for 10-plus yards against Washington and a highlight-reel truck stick almost every week. But they’re still just flashes. His single-game high is 63 yards, and he’s totaled just 144 rushing yards on 47 carries (3.1 yards per carry). A more stunning stat is that he’s had 146 yards after contact. Yards after contact is measured starting from where the defender is first hit, even if that’s behind the line of scrimmage. The total is more than the yards from scrimmage only when the ball carrier is constantly getting hit in the backfield. The same offensive line that’s failing to keep Smith upright is also failing Jeanty on the ground. He’s been contacted at or behind the line of scrimmage on 68 percent of his carries, the highest rate in the league for any back with 30-plus rushes, and he ranks second to last in yards before first contact per attempt, at -0.04 yards. If you want to do the conversion here, that means that on average, Jeanty is running into contact 1.44 INCHES before the line of scrimmage. This ridiculous number is because of how much he’s getting hit way behind the line of scrimmage, like in these two hideous runs.

Of course, Jeanty isn’t blameless here. He’s been impatient when navigating blocks behind the line of scrimmage and has missed open rushing lanes. But it’s clear that the biggest issue for the Raiders offense overall is the offensive line. Jeanty won’t be the player the Raiders hoped he’d be when they drafted him sixth until he gets more help in the trenches.”


https://www.theringer.com/2025/09/23/nf ... ordan-love


Brennan Carroll, if you have any dignity or respect for your Father whatsoever, cede the oline duties to Philbin. For God’s sake, you’re f[raiders_icon]cking sinking the entire season Brennan. Please don’t be a f[raiders_icon]cking cunt.

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:01 pm
by GoodTimeCharlie
Just saw this in an article about Brennan/Oline…

In addition, Carroll is also the run game coordinator.

Ffs.

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:37 pm
by Hellbound
FLORIDARAYDAH wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:07 pm Yeah everyone thought highly of him. There are a few on here jumping through hoops trying to find a little extra negativity. I liked it a lot better when they hid in chat
Not to mention that when asked the question, it was said that they never really had any contact after college until Brady went to Tampa....yeah pretty chummy college buddies for sure

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 7:46 pm
by SkullCrusher
rich72 wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:11 pm Carrol should be in panic mode right now and Chip Kelly should be on the hot seat. I want to see some roster/ coaching changes. Fire the waterboy at least or something.
If Pete was actually in panic mode he'd immediately lose the team. We are adults here that knows how real life works, no?

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 8:06 pm
by erickench
If they think they're gonna sign somebody off the street they better forget it. All that's left is garbage. Cody Whitehair anyone? :grimmace:
Putnam and Grant had decent PFF grades in the preseason i.e. 60 or better. We should try to use them. Parham is having his worst season as pro.

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 8:44 pm
by Reno Hightower
Coach Pete in panic mode and Chip Kelly on the hot seat? Judith Priest talk about the triumph of the uncluttered minds.

Following this logic New England should have packed it in for the 2001 because they didn't reach .500 by week 7 (they started 1-3 btw). New England won five games the previous season.

Al should have fired Tom Flores, burned the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum to the ground, traded Plunkett, Mark Van Eeghen and Rod Martin for Vince Ferragamo and hired Sid Gilman after the Raiders started 2-3 in 1980.

Perspective folks.

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 9:30 pm
by RaiderFan1
ToastPatterson wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 8:44 pm Judith Priest talk about the triumph of the uncluttered minds.
Does that mean Fvkcing Idiot

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 9:40 pm
by LayneStaley


Zero push

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 9:53 pm
by RaiderFan1
erickench wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 8:06 pm Putnam and Grant had decent PFF grades in the preseason i.e. 60 or better. We should try to use them. Parham is having his worst season as pro.

Agreed
Cappa is shit
Meredith is shit
Parham is crap
Glaze is Crap
JPJ is average with flashing potential at times, as far as WE could see.... but JPJ must have done something, or Pete must see some flaw in him. He seems like hes in petes doghouse..

We Need to replace Cappa (he shouldn't even be a back up), Meredith, Parham, and Glaze

Geno , Jeanty, Bowers, and our WR's are Fvkced

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:01 pm
by LayneStaley
What do our Eagles scouts think about Kenyon Green? He was released yesterday I believe. Can’t be worse than Cappa. He was a beast at Texas A&M.

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news ... nyon-green

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:03 pm
by mranquales
6'4 323. Sounds good to me.

The last bench player we grabbed from the Eagles ended up being the best Dlinemen on the team.

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:04 pm
by rcraider
LayneStaley wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 10:57 am Oline has never been Pete’s strength, in Seattle he actually threw a Dlineman on the offensive line lol. With that said Id rather give that monster Tasi a chance over Cappa. Dude is a fcking mountain.
They should fast track Tasi, he couldn't be worse than what they are trotting out now

Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:10 pm
by LayneStaley
mranquales wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:03 pm 6'4 323. Sounds good to me.

The last bench player we grabbed from the Eagles ended up being the best Dlinemen on the team.
This is from 2024 and I know he’s struggled but he looks a lot more physical than what we are starting.


Re: Our O-line

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:11 pm
by rcraider
LayneStaley wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:01 pm What do our Eagles scouts think about Kenyon Green? He was released yesterday I believe. Can’t be worse than Cappa. He was a beast at Texas A&M.

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news ... nyon-green
Interesting, former 1st round pick, his comparison was Richie Incognito
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kenyon-gr ... ef00b12bc2