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FLORIDARAYDAH wrote: Fri May 08, 2026 4:59 pm I don't hate the pick but Im not excited about it either. I feel best case scenario we get a few years out of him. I also feel we are a few years away from competing. It's only a 4th round pick so not a big gamble but it's not much different than signing a vet with only a few years left IMO

Yeah, for me, if half of our picks pan out well, I'd be fine with that.

Everything is clicking for the Raiders right now just saying. Have faith.

FLORIDARAYDAH wrote: Fri May 08, 2026 4:59 pm I don't hate the pick but Im not excited about it either. I feel best case scenario we get a few years out of him. I also feel we are a few years away from competing. It's only a 4th round pick so not a big gamble but it's not much different than signing a vet with only a few years left IMO

Don’t agree it’s best case scenario — I think there is a chance he has a normal career.

But it might be the most likely scenario that we only get a few years out of him.

And in that case, you are right that he’s basically the same as signing a short term vet. Not the worst player to have on your roster, but more of a bandaid than a long term solution.

We’ll see! Hopefully we get a normal career from him, worth the dice roll, but can’t make him the only plan there

Raiders Baby wrote: Fri May 08, 2026 6:13 pm Don’t agree it’s best case scenario — I think there is a chance he has a normal career.

But it might be the most likely scenario that we only get a few years out of him.

And in that case, you are right that he’s basically the same as signing a short term vet. Not the worst player to have on your roster, but more of a bandaid than a long term solution.

We’ll see! Hopefully we get a normal career from him, worth the dice roll, but can’t make him the only plan there

That's my take don't count on him. But if he works out it's a big bonus. With all the DBs we got I don't think he is being counted on. Hoping he turns out to be a steal

he may surprise everyone this yr and be the steal of the century

Raiders Baby wrote: Fri May 08, 2026 6:13 pm Don’t agree it’s best case scenario — I think there is a chance he has a normal career.

But it might be the most likely scenario that we only get a few years out of him.

And in that case, you are right that he’s basically the same as signing a short term vet. Not the worst player to have on your roster, but more of a bandaid than a long term solution.

We’ll see! Hopefully we get a normal career from him, worth the dice roll, but can’t make him the only plan there

Honestly for a lot of corners a few good years is a normal career. Doesnt get talked about the way it does for RBs but often times the cliff hits just as fast or faster - guys go from elite in the league to barely startable almost overnight.

FLORIDARAYDAH wrote: Fri May 08, 2026 4:59 pm I don't hate the pick but Im not excited about it either. I feel best case scenario we get a few years out of him. I also feel we are a few years away from competing.

Man, I hope you’re wrong about that! I don’t know how many more years of waiting/hoping to see us return to greatness again many of us have left!

In recent years other teams have done it. Why not us?

Vercingetorix wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 11:52 am Man, I hope you’re wrong about that! I don’t know how many more years of waiting/hoping to see us return to greatness again many of us have left!

In recent years other teams have done it. Why not us?

Semper Fi !

FLORIDARAYDAH wrote: Fri May 08, 2026 4:59 pm I don't hate the pick but Im not excited about it either. I feel best case scenario we get a few years out of him. I also feel we are a few years away from competing. It's only a 4th round pick so not a big gamble but it's not much different than signing a vet with only a few years left IMO

Youre also getting that "vet" at a cut rate price of about 1 million/year.

Cruisin with Tooz wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 12:02 pm Youre also getting that "vet" at a cut rate price of about 1 million/year.

But it cost you a draft pick when there was a lot of talent still on the board. I don't hate the move I just hate seeing these injured players not work out. I hope he proves everyone wrong and has a long career

raidersince63 wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 12:01 pm Semper Fi !

Semper Fi brother!

FLORIDARAYDAH wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 12:33 pm But it cost you a draft pick when there was a lot of talent still on the board. I don't hate the move I just hate seeing these injured players not work out. I hope he proves everyone wrong and has a long career

....how many times have we committed a boatload of cash to a big name vet, only to have him come, get seriously hurt, and give us little to nothing after.? Wilkins is the latest, but there have been others....
I'll be fine with taking this risk, with a 4th, and the expected contract to match, and with trusting in our staff to have made the same call,.

WNYRAIDER wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 3:18 pm ....how many times have we committed a boatload of cash to a big name vet, only to have him come, get seriously hurt, and give us little to nothing after.? Wilkins is the latest, but there have been others....
I'll be fine with taking this risk, with a 4th, and the expected contract to match, and with trusting in our staff to have made the same call,.

for many yrs the raiders have been used as big paydays and lazy play

raiders93 wrote: Fri May 08, 2026 8:42 pm Honestly for a lot of corners a few good years is a normal career. Doesnt get talked about the way it does for RBs but often times the cliff hits just as fast or faster - guys go from elite in the league to barely startable almost overnight.

Good point. For every ageless Woodson, there are 25 guys who are elite for a short stretch but fall off a cliff.

Perhaps the risk of short career is higher with Jermod, but if we can get 5-8 good years out of him that’s probably in line with the career of a normal high-level corner. The decade+ guys are the exception.

BUT, to my original point, whatever is considered “normal” for a corner, there must be reason for concern that he won’t ever be that.

Even with the knowledge that CBs can be semi-short career guys on average, they still get picked high in the draft. Jermod was all set to be a top 15 pick even with the ACL. It wasn’t until the bone plug details came out that he seriously started to slide.

That strongly suggests that the decision makers of every team agree there’s reason to believe McCoy is a risk to miss the trajectory expected of a 1st, 2nd or even 3rd round pick.

I know I’m going in circles here, but I’ll say again I do like the pick. Every player in the 4th and beyond has bruises on their resume, it’s a reasonable risk to take there