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Dante Moore or Fernando Mendoza

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:27 pm
by Sold My Soul
Call your shot....or add your own.

Dante Moore:

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Dante-Moore-QB-UCLA

Fernando Mendoza:

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Fer ... California

May the football godz look kindly down upon the feeble and inept.

:praying:

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 2:40 am
by BoKnows81
Baldy on Mendoza


Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 10:06 am
by Curay7680
BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 2:40 am Baldy on Mendoza

I'll take Brian Baldingers film analysis over "Former supposed Ny Jet (scout) "Hack.." Daniel Kelly's take all day and every day. :thumbsup:

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 1:05 pm
by Attyla
Curay7680 wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 10:06 am I'll take Brian Baldingers film analysis over "Former supposed Ny Jet (scout) "Hack.." Daniel Kelly's take all day and every day. :thumbsup:
As was mentioned, I don't mind people being critical of a player and any analysis of a player, if done correctly is always going to unveil more of the picture of a player. And Kelly does make a few good points about Mendoza's reaction to pressure and his accuracy ratings while being pressured. That is a paintbrush picture and the stats speak for themselves. Putting a 4th round grade and calling him stiff and systematic while praising Caleb Williams for the same? His analysis is pretty basic and his critiques are mostly silly. Mendoza's claps and the fact that he works from the gun primarily? I can find all sorts of flaws to his analysis. Baldinger's breakdown is far simpler but that does not mean that Brian is wrong, he just uses a small sample size to make his points. And his points are based on a good game vs a tough opponent.

Part of me thinks Kelly's analysis is intended for a certain audience. I wonder if he is hoping that casting doubt on Mendoza is in some strange way intended for us to move off of Mendoza so his precious Jets can get him. That to me makes far more sense but he also has been proven to be a questionable talent evaluator hence his lack of a current NFL job. Also, clicks are how he makes some money so being critical is where it is at.

Finally, and this is the best part, the Jets fanbase is slaying the guy. His talking points about Mendoza are being shredded by their fans. It is quite obvious they hate the guy and his takes.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 3:38 pm
by Rabidraider
He really wasn't a scout per se. More like a stats guy who got coffee and picked up people at the airport. I give him credit for getting as far as he did and his love of football.

But he isn't a scout.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:04 pm
by Attyla
Rabidraider wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 3:38 pm He really wasn't a scout per se. More like a stats guy who got coffee and picked up people at the airport. I give him credit for getting as far as he did and his love of football.

But he isn't a scout.
SI said he was a scout

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:07 pm
by Oaktownonly
Rabidraider wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 3:38 pm He really wasn't a scout per se. More like a stats guy who got coffee and picked up people at the airport. I give him credit for getting as far as he did and his love of football.

But he isn't a scout.
He may have been a scout. A boy scout.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:09 pm
by Rabidraider
Attyla wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:04 pm SI said he was a scout
I read the article you posted. By no means was he a scout. SI is wrong or just being generous to his ego.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:35 pm
by Curay7680
Attyla wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 1:05 pm As was mentioned, I don't mind people being critical of a player and any analysis of a player, if done correctly is always going to unveil more of the picture of a player. And Kelly does make a few good points about Mendoza's reaction to pressure and his accuracy ratings while being pressured. That is a paintbrush picture and the stats speak for themselves. Putting a 4th round grade and calling him stiff and systematic while praising Caleb Williams for the same? His analysis is pretty basic and his critiques are mostly silly. Mendoza's claps and the fact that he works from the gun primarily? I can find all sorts of flaws to his analysis. Baldinger's breakdown is far simpler but that does not mean that Brian is wrong, he just uses a small sample size to make his points. And his points are based on a good game vs a tough opponent.

Part of me thinks Kelly's analysis is intended for a certain audience. I wonder if he is hoping that casting doubt on Mendoza is in some strange way intended for us to move off of Mendoza so his precious Jets can get him. That to me makes far more sense but he also has been proven to be a questionable talent evaluator hence his lack of a current NFL job. Also, clicks are how he makes some money so being critical is where it is at.

Finally, and this is the best part, the Jets fanbase is slaying the guy. His talking points about Mendoza are being shredded by their fans. It is quite obvious they hate the guy and his takes.
:thumbsup:
I appreciate your take on it.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:36 pm
by Attyla
Rabidraider wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:09 pm I read the article you posted. By no means was he a scout. SI is wrong or just being generous to his ego.
so a publication of record is wrong and you are right

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:39 pm
by KillerRaider30

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 7:39 pm
by Rabidraider
Attyla wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 4:36 pm so a publication of record is wrong and you are right
Did you read the article you posted about him? The article described his duties. And it sure didn't come across as a scout.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 7:42 pm
by SkullCrusher
I don't care if he was Ron G Wolfe. Scouts can be as wrong as a poster when it comes to college talent. His opinion is way outside of consensus.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2026 3:12 am
by RI RAIDER
TBH, I do not give a f[raiders_icon]ck what talking heads say (both good and bad). I love everything about this kid as far as intangibles (undisputed). What does it mean at the end of the day? NOTHING. We can only hope he is the real deal. Regardless, I am just glad we are along for the ride to find out. Thanks to Brandon Carroll and Geno "Jets turn" Smith.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2026 3:16 am
by Attyla
Rabidraider wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 7:39 pm Did you read the article you posted about him? The article described his duties. And it sure didn't come across as a scout.
They LISTED him as a scout. I read the article. Do you know all the things a low level scout does? I sure as hell do. I know more than a few.

Re: Fernando Mendoza Welcome To Las Vegas

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2026 9:29 am
by raiders93
RI RAIDER wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 3:12 am TBH, I do not give a f[raiders_icon]ck what talking heads say (both good and bad). I love everything about this kid as far as intangibles (undisputed). What does it mean at the end of the day? NOTHING. We can only hope he is the real deal. Regardless, I am just glad we are along for the ride to find out. Thanks to Brandon Carroll and Geno "Jets turn" Smith.

This. There is no science behind why some guys translate to the pro’s and other guys don’t. All I can say is we’ve got the 1st overall pick and a QB available who by virtually all accounts: is worth the 1st overall pick.

The things we can control: coaching, protection, ground game, targets… we seem to have done a reasonably good job of putting in place. Beyond that, whether he succeeds or not I can’t hate the process. This offseason looks like a shockingly competent one.