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The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 6:18 pm
by erickench
Mike Tice once said while coaching for the Raiders: “If you look at the offense like a fancy car, the offensive line is the engine. Even though we might have nice spinners and nice rims and tinted windows and some neat paint job, it doesn’t mean crap without the engine. If the engine’s not working, the car might look like a pretty nice car, but it’s a piece of crap.” And he was 100% right. I wish we had him back. Changes must be made on the O-line. Charles Grant is a very athletic lineman. We should give him some reps at right tackle. Bring back Powers-Johnson as the starter at center. Parham has got to go. Maybe we should consider moving Meredith back to guard. He did so well there last year. :cuss:

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Sun May 24, 2026 3:08 am
by WNYRAIDER
erickench wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 2:08 pm I still say they have too many guards and not enough tackles.
....you may well be right, and especially when we have to assume Miller will miss significant time again, which isn't so much me knocking him, but instead just facing that reality based on past history. ...it is a tough sport, and there are plenty of good players who can't make it through a season without missing some time, though with all of our needs leading in to this last draft, I also think that that is part of the beauty of the Zuhn pick, is that even if he ends up inside, it would not be a stretch to think that he could hold down the fort at tackle for a stretch, in a pinch., and with the depth a guard to be able to have that covered were he to start there and have to move outside for a while

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Sun May 24, 2026 3:50 am
by Willmark
Next year might be a good one to look for Miller's replacement in the draft. The projected run on QBs in the 1st should work in our favor.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Sun May 24, 2026 4:02 am
by Viper
WNYRAIDER wrote: Sun May 24, 2026 3:08 am ....you may well be right, and especially when we have to assume Miller will miss significant time again, which isn't so much me knocking him, but instead just facing that reality based on past history. ...it is a tough sport, and there are plenty of good players who can't make it through a season without missing some time, though with all of our needs leading in to this last draft, I also think that that is part of the beauty of the Zuhn pick, is that even if he ends up inside, it would not be a stretch to think that he could hold down the fort at tackle for a stretch, in a pinch., and with the depth a guard to be able to have that covered were he to start there and have to move outside for a while
Was thinking the exact thing, Zuhn is the wild card here. He may not become the best at anything but instead pretty good at many. Versatility on the line, with so many injuries, is important. You hear broadcasters sometimes mention during games how many different starting offensive line units have started games throughout the season for different teams and it’s staggering sometimes.

We’re at the stage of still acquiring starters let alone quality depth.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Sun May 24, 2026 8:26 pm
by erickench
I don't know why they drafted Zuhn.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Sun May 24, 2026 10:21 pm
by RickRyb
erickench wrote: Sun May 24, 2026 8:26 pm I don't know why they drafted Zuhn.
He's a fit for the Kubiak/Dennison offensive line scheme and can play multiple positions well.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 3:04 am
by raidersince63
erickench wrote: Sun May 24, 2026 8:26 pm I don't know why they drafted Zuhn.
I don't know why that you don't know why we drafted Zuhn.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 4:27 am
by vtraider
raidersince63 wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 3:04 am I don't know why that you don't know why we drafted Zuhn.
I don't know why you don't understand why he don't understand why



Where was I going with that?

Zuhn fits the scheme. He can play up and down the line at every position.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 5:33 am
by Hellbound
erickench wrote: Sun May 24, 2026 8:26 pm I don't know why they drafted Zuhn.
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Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 5:38 am
by raidersince63
vtraider wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 4:27 am I don't know why you don't understand why he don't understand why



Where was I going with that?

Zuhn fits the scheme. He can play up and down the line at every position.
???...Can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me?

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 6:11 am
by Viper
Subtraction of Brennan Carroll and addition of Dennison is about as good a start to fixing the O line as we could have hoped for. That and competent play calling.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 7:12 am
by raider_kin
Viper wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 6:11 am Subtraction of Brennan Carroll and addition of Dennison is about as good a start to fixing the O line as we could have hoped for. That and competent play calling.
And I don't care how much it cost, having an all pro at center making the line calls

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 8:28 am
by TrueFan420
erickench wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 2:08 pm I still say they have too many guards and not enough tackles.
Miller, Glaze, Grant and Zuhn is more than enough. Even if you think Glaze should move to G he’s been a T in the league for 2 years. Zuhn was announced as a G but is getting snaps at T and played T in college. Yes, it’s not the best room in the league but it’s got enough talent for this coming year. Let’s see how they do with proper coaching.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 8:56 am
by mstrbass2000
our oline will play much better this yr, id rank em middle of the pack now with upside to top 10 if everything works...im really wanting zuhn at rt dude was great playing in teh sec vs superior edge players despite short arms

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 9:01 am
by KillerRaider30
Linderbaum will be a major steadying force in the middle and will help get the oline to play in sync.
He's a big get.

Re: The Off. Line - Complaints, Fixes, Questions, Draft

Posted: Mon May 25, 2026 9:05 am
by RI RAIDER
Sure our coaches sucked ass last year. We got rid of trash who should have never been on our roster, never mind starting. We also added one of the best centers in football. That being said, we potentially still have problems. Glaze should not be starting (no way/no how). Our OG's are a question mark. I wished we did more solidifying the OL but its water under the bridge at this point in time and we can only hope for the best.