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mstrbass2000 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:06 pm UM TRADE DEADLINE TO A PLAYOFF NEEDY TEAM, yes a 5th,desperation does that
they do a 1st for Cousins also.
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mstrbass2000 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:06 pm UM TRADE DEADLINE TO A PLAYOFF NEEDY TEAM, yes a 5th,desperation does that
Um no, HE ISN'T THAT GOOD. And he's old.

So.....no, nobody is giving us more than what we paid for him 7 months later.
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KillerRaider30 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:19 pm they do a 1st for Cousins also.
you never know what you can get from a desperate team
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BoKnows81 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:26 pm Um no, HE ISN'T THAT GOOD. And he's old.

So.....no, nobody is giving us more than what we paid for him 7 months later.
desperate teams alway pay up
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KillerRaider30 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 2:19 pm they do a 1st for Cousins also.
Never do a first cousin. You get birth defects
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mstrbass2000 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 4:12 pm desperate teams alway pay up
Desperate teams pay up for GOOD players.
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vtraider wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 4:16 pm Never do a first cousin. You get birth defects
OK, I gotta admit, that was pretty damn good...Kudos.
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KillerRaider30 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 1:18 pm Taron Johnson signed a three-year, $30.75 million contract extension (2024–2026, plus a 2027 dummy year used to spread out signing bonus cap hits) with Buffalo, earning $19.48 million in cash from the Bills before being traded to the Las Vegas Raiders in March 2026.

The Raiders inherited the remaining two years of his contract rate, but because the final year carries no financial penalties, it is functionally inherited as a one-year contract that breaks down exactly by base salary, workout bonuses, and specific injury protections as follows:

2026: He is scheduled to earn a $8,100,000 base salary and a $150,000 workout bonus ($8.76 million total cash).

Because only $1.175 million carries injury protection—meaning the team only owes him that small sum if he suffers a season-ending injury—he is holding out from Raiders workouts to demand better financial safety.

2027: He is scheduled to earn a $9,000,000 base salary and a $500,000 workout bonus ($10.04 million total cash). This "plus" year features zero injury protection or skill guarantees, giving the Raiders complete flexibility to release him after 2026 with no financial penalty if his performance drops or he gets hurt.
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If Johnson suffers a season ending injury in camp or OTA's or in the season, he will get all of his 2026 compensation. If he's looking for guarantees then it's likely to ensure that he doesn't just get cut prior to the season if Stukes takes ahold of the position and they decide to cut him to save about $7.5 million instead of keeping him as a backup. The $1.175 million is fully guaranteed, not just injury guaranteed.
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BoKnows81 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 4:24 pm Desperate teams pay up for GOOD players.
desperate teams over pay for positions of need
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raidersince63 wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 5:00 pm OK, I gotta admit, that was pretty damn good...Kudos.
i did a double take on that one ...good one
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chucker wrote: Fri May 22, 2026 5:50 am If Johnson suffers a season ending injury in camp or OTA's or in the season, he will get all of his 2026 compensation. If he's looking for guarantees then it's likely to ensure that he doesn't just get cut prior to the season if Stukes takes ahold of the position and they decide to cut him to save about $7.5 million instead of keeping him as a backup. The $1.175 million is fully guaranteed, not just injury guaranteed.
if teh raiders trade him,the new team inherits the contract minus the time he was with the raiders and it free us cap money this yr ???
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...the reality is that last year, he was pretty beat up, with a knee, groin, and some other stuff, as I remember, and he played quite a few times when he probably shouldn't have, but the bills were thin in the d backfield, and he tried to make it happen.
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mstrbass2000 wrote: Fri May 22, 2026 7:18 am if teh raiders trade him,the new team inherits the contract minus the time he was with the raiders and it free us cap money this yr ???
Do you envision him starting and then getting traded? If he's playing well enough that he's a starter then we likely won't want to trade him. If he's not playing well enough to start then nobody will want to trade for him. I don't envision us having enough quality DBs to want to get rid of one who's playing well enough to have trade value. I don't expect us to be in purge mode mid-season.

I appreciate your forward-thinking ideas of a trade but I think it's misplaced with respect to Johnson. YMMV.
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chucker wrote: Fri May 22, 2026 7:34 am Do you envision him starting and then getting traded? If he's playing well enough that he's a starter then we likely won't want to trade him. If he's not playing well enough to start then nobody will want to trade for him. I don't envision us having enough quality DBs to want to get rid of one who's playing well enough to have trade value. I don't expect us to be in purge mode mid-season.

I appreciate your forward-thinking ideas of a trade but I think it's misplaced with respect to Johnson. YMMV.
im looking at it from the perspective of him continuing to hold out and turning into a distraction for this young team, we didn't give up much for him and revamped the entire backfield
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The main reason to want Taron Johnson back is so that Paolo-Mao doesn't have to start.

I am more than happy to have Stukes replace TJ if we are only looking at slot CB in a vacuum, but the chain reaction down the secondary is noticeable.

With Taron, I would guess the first team would be:

FS: Stukes
SS: Chinn
SCB: Johnson

Without Taron, it might be:

FS: Paolo-Mao
SS: Chinn
SCB: Stukes


I think Stukes is in line to get action no matter what, he was an early day 2 pick and we have jobs available all over the secondary. The real question is if Paolo-Mao is going to sneak his way back into serious snaps.

Therefore, the correct comparison is Johnson vs Paolo-Mao, not Johnson vs Stukes -- if you think TJ is better than Paolo-Mao, then it will help us if TJ is on the team
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