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He's back! Maxx Crosby merged superthread

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Resigning Koonce; that a big question mark as he has not really played that well from his injury; I think Koonce will be quite expensive once he hit free agency as other teams will over bid….
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The best way to use M. Crosby in this new 3-4 defense is as a Jack(or rush) linebacker. This player's primary duty is as a pass rush specialist. Occasionally he would have to drop into coverage, but he did play linebacker in High School. Snowden would be the Sam linebacker for the time being. He has Pro experience in both linebacker and defensive end. He would be covering the tight end.
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erickench wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 9:30 am The best way to use M. Crosby in this new 3-4 defense is as a Jack(or rush) linebacker. This player's primary duty is as a pass rush specialist. Occasionally he would have to drop into coverage, but he did play linebacker in High School. Snowden would be the Sam linebacker for the time being. He has Pro experience in both linebacker and defensive end. He would be covering the tight end.

Playing LBer in high school was 10 years ago and before his knees starting showing wear and tear...there's no way Maxx can now hang trying to cover most NFL TEs.
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I like the idea of Maxx dropping in coverage on occasion - it can net you a big play. He'll still be rushing the passer most of the time.
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raidersince63 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 10:44 am .there's no way Maxx can now hang trying to cover most NFL TEs.
He won't have to cover as much as the Sam linebacker. He would be the Jack(rush) linebacker.
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erickench wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 3:31 pm He won't have to cover as much as the Sam linebacker. He would be the Jack(rush) linebacker.
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Not sure how it works but imagine him dropping back into a passing lane or covering the flat. Bout it
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erickench wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 3:31 pm He won't have to cover as much as the Sam linebacker. He would be the Jack(rush) linebacker.
If he's trying to keep up with a TE, he obviously won't be harassing the QB, which is what he does best.
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Attyla wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 4:14 pm If you were a navy seal, you would be courtmarshalled
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raidersince63 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 4:40 pm If he's trying to keep up with a TE, he obviously won't be harassing the QB, which is what he does best.
Dropping a great passrusher into coverage occasionally can allow someone else to get to the QB - he doesn't even have to cover a lot of space, just fill a passing lane. The Giants used that with Osi Umenyora when they beat the undefeated Pats in the SB. Osi was a true passrusher, not a coverage guy, and his "coverage" completely f[raiders_icon]cked up Brady to set up an easy sack for someone else.
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chucker wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 4:54 pm Dropping a great passrusher into coverage occasionally can allow someone else to get to the QB - he doesn't even have to cover a lot of space, just fill a passing lane. The Giants used that with Osi Umenyora when they beat the undefeated Pats in the SB. Osi was a true passrusher, not a coverage guy, and his "coverage" completely f[raiders_icon]cked up Brady to set up an easy sack for someone else.
Exactly who would be the "someone else to be allowed to get to the QB" instead of Maxx?...why not let that other DE drop into pass coverage instead of Maxx at let him do what he does best, which is sacking the QB and tackling the RBs for a loss? Unless we somehow acquire another high caliber DE, moving Maxx anywhere other than his normal position, how does doing that make our defense any stronger?...it doesn't, IMO...it weakens it.
And if we were to acquire another DE in Maxx's category, it would likely mean that Maxx has been traded elsewhere, which would make the point moot. Also, an outlier from one guy in one SB game many years ago is not gonna sway me.
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raidersince63 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 5:17 pm Exactly who would be the "someone else to be allowed to get to the QB" instead of Maxx?...why not let that other DE drop into pass coverage instead of Maxx at let him do what he does best, which is sacking the QB and tackling the RBs for a loss? Unless we somehow acquire another high caliber DE, moving Maxx anywhere other than his normal position, how does doing that make our defense any stronger?...it doesn't, IMO...it weakens it.
And if we were to acquire another DE in Maxx's category, it would likely mean that Maxx has been traded elsewhere, which would make the point moot. Also, an outlier from one guy in one SB game many years ago is not gonna sway me.
Exactly. It's asinine thinking to have Maxx drop into coverage. Ever. To me, switching to a 3-4 is just a step closer to Maxx being gone. While i admittedly want to give Leonard a chance, its not like we have some decorated, creative mind calling the defense.
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chucker wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 4:54 pm Dropping a great passrusher into coverage occasionally can allow someone else to get to the QB - he doesn't even have to cover a lot of space, just fill a passing lane. The Giants used that with Osi Umenyora when they beat the undefeated Pats in the SB. Osi was a true passrusher, not a coverage guy, and his "coverage" completely f[raiders_icon]cked up Brady to set up an easy sack for someone else.
Yip. Moving the protection to Maxx and having him drop in coverage leaves an offense vulnerable in other places 2 plays a month.
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BoKnows81 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 5:41 pm Exactly. It's asinine thinking to have Maxx drop into coverage. Ever. To me, switching to a 3-4 is just a step closer to Maxx being gone. While i admittedly want to give Leonard a chance, its not like we have some decorated, creative mind calling the defense.
Haha, it's not a step towards Maxx being gone. That's just what you want to happen so maybe you can speak it into existence.

Maxx will never drop into coverage a lot, but when he does it mixes it up for an offense. I did mention Osi doing it, and he was an elite passrusher and Spags knows his shit. And it f[raiders_icon]cked up Brady and the most potent offense of all time. But we should just do everything as predictably as possible because our players are just more elite than everyone we face so we'll win even without any misdirection.
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All I said is that Crosby would be the pass rush specialist as the Jack linebacker. His primary job would be rushing the passer. On occasion he'll be asked to drop back into coverage. Snowden as the SAM would be covering the tight end. He has real linebacker experience as well as defensive end.
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