Time to climb atop our division

Las Vegas Raiders Discussion.
Born from RF.net ruins, resurrected as RF.com, now arriving at Raiderstation.
The #1 Las Vegas Raiders site on the web!
User avatar
Viper
Posts: 1,806
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:39 pm
Has given High Fives: 808 times
Received High Fives: 966 times

Time to climb atop our division

Unread post by Viper »

Maybe it’s just because it’s our division but, I literally despise Reid, Harbaugh and especially Payton. Tired of all the talk about how great of coaches they are. Our ineptitude to hire competent coaches who make good football decisions is Mark’s fault and has only helped solidify our basement dwelling.

Time for some real hope and change. We aren’t the only team in our division anymore without, although early and still unproven, a Qb that can actually lead this team to wins. To the playoffs. Hopefully soon, a Super Bowl. The others have had success because of having that Qb, especially KC. If Bo hadn’t gotten injured, who knows, they may have had their Cinderella moment. Mendoza should be better than at least him. Sure, Nix has the mobility to extend plays with his legs and is a threat to run on any given play. Personally, I’d rather a Qb that doesn’t rely so much on scrambling to be successful because those guys don’t tend to hold up well over the long haul. I’d rather a higher IQ guy which we have in our rookie.

Gonna take a couple more years to put the pieces in place, including depth but, it really looks like we’re finally headed in the right direction. Time to start climbing to the top of at least our division, get to the playoffs by any means possible and be done with being last.
These users gave a High Five to the author Viper for the post:
mranquales
User avatar
raidersince63
Posts: 2,431
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:31 am
Has given High Fives: 1458 times
Received High Fives: 1232 times

Unread post by raidersince63 »

^^^Yup, "small steps".
These users gave a High Five to the author raidersince63 for the post:
Rabidraider
User avatar
Curay7680
Posts: 261
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:19 am
Has given High Fives: 744 times
Received High Fives: 36 times

Unread post by Curay7680 »

Well said.👍🏻
User avatar
RickRyb
The Assassin
Posts: 1,597
Joined: Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 am
Location: SoCal
Has given High Fives: 1151 times
Received High Fives: 438 times

Unread post by RickRyb »

Hopefully 2027 will be about building on their successes, whatever they may be, and NOT rebuilding the team.
User avatar
SkullCrusher
Posts: 12,018
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:14 pm
Location: The Nation.
Has given High Fives: 486 times
Received High Fives: 625 times

Unread post by SkullCrusher »

Stable teams turnover players around 30% each year. 16 new players.
The worst are approaching 50%. 26 players.
The average is a bit over 40% 22 players.

When you look at it that way, there is always turnover & rebuild it up for the season going on.
Coaches/GM's have been clear for ages each season is it's own thing.
Obviously there are teams that can do this way better than others, but each team is doing a fair bit of turning the roster over.

Only looking at starters:
The average is 8 new starters per team.
The best teams around 6.
Worst around 10.
These users gave a High Five to the author SkullCrusher for the post:
mstrbass2000
User avatar
SuperRaider
Posts: 703
Joined: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:01 am
Location: Belper;UK
Has given High Fives: 61 times
Received High Fives: 198 times

Unread post by SuperRaider »

We are not doing it this year; improve on last year record and build on that….

Why did we get the number 1 pick…. Because we are the worst team in NFL….

The future look bright; but we are not there yet
User avatar
mstrbass2000
SnakeThe AssassinBo KnowsMad StorkBowersFernandoJeantyMan from Mars
Posts: 2,229
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2026 10:49 am
Has given High Fives: 794 times
Received High Fives: 1041 times

Unread post by mstrbass2000 »

User avatar
raidersince63
Posts: 2,431
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:31 am
Has given High Fives: 1458 times
Received High Fives: 1232 times

Unread post by raidersince63 »

Context.
User avatar
Attyla
Gold JacketSnake3 Mile Lyle
Posts: 52,595
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:31 pm
Has given High Fives: 1216 times
Received High Fives: 2922 times

Unread post by Attyla »

Kookaid, thanks I will stick to beer. No offense to the OP or anyone who is buying in but I want to see it on the field. I have been duped before.
These users gave a High Five to the author Attyla for the post (total 2):
ELCAraiderfan, DrDUne
User avatar
ELCAraiderfan
GhostMad StorkBig Ben
Posts: 3,350
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:38 pm
Has given High Fives: 845 times
Received High Fives: 410 times

Unread post by ELCAraiderfan »

The difference this time it looks like finally got a FO, HC choice seems well thought, Free agency well thought and executed and the draft the same well thought and executed. Now see what happens going forward through OTA's and especially when training camp starts.

BUT,

We've all been here done this for years. It all comes down to what happens on the field. If I see improved competent in game competition throughout each game, that will be a huge step forward.

Just waiting to see it on the field.
These users gave a High Five to the author ELCAraiderfan for the post:
Attyla
User avatar
Attyla
Gold JacketSnake3 Mile Lyle
Posts: 52,595
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:31 pm
Has given High Fives: 1216 times
Received High Fives: 2922 times

Unread post by Attyla »

ELCAraiderfan wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 2:36 pm The difference this time it looks like finally got a FO, HC choice seems well thought, Free agency well thought and executed and the draft the same well thought and executed. Now see what happens going forward through OTA's and especially when training camp starts.

BUT,

We've all been here done this for years. It all comes down to what happens on the field. If I see improved competent in game competition throughout each game, that will be a huge step forward.

Just waiting to see it on the field.
There was some optimism when McKenzie and Allen. I remember that McKenzie came highly recommended and Allen was the up and comin DE. We even got our "franchise QB" around that time.

So yea, beer is fine for me. Show me on the field.
These users gave a High Five to the author Attyla for the post:
ELCAraiderfan
User avatar
Viper
Posts: 1,806
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:39 pm
Has given High Fives: 808 times
Received High Fives: 966 times

Unread post by Viper »

Attyla wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 3:40 pm There was some optimism when McKenzie and Allen. I remember that McKenzie came highly recommended and Allen was the up and comin DE. We even got our "franchise QB" around that time.

So yea, beer is fine for me. Show me on the field.
I get it but, doesn’t every discussion have a little hopium in them? Obviously none of us can say for certain what’s gonna happen however I refuse to give up hope, especially now where it seems we’re headed in the right direction.
These users gave a High Five to the author Viper for the post:
RickRyb
User avatar
Attyla
Gold JacketSnake3 Mile Lyle
Posts: 52,595
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:31 pm
Has given High Fives: 1216 times
Received High Fives: 2922 times

Unread post by Attyla »

Viper wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 4:31 pm I get it but, doesn’t every discussion have a little hopium in them? Obviously none of us can say for certain what’s gonna happen however I refuse to give up hope, especially now where it seems we’re headed in the right direction.
Hope? Sure, but does it play into my expectations? Not in the least. I expect us to be 4th in the division again. I am not secure in that changing next year. We all know the bust rate for first round QBs and we all know the bust rate for first time HCs. We beat the odds, good for us. But the odds are not great for us. But that does not mean hope does not apply. It merely means I am a Show Me state fan at this point.
User avatar
RunOverByHubbard
Posts: 13,356
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:09 am
Location: 88 miles NE of the Coliseum
Has given High Fives: 138 times
Received High Fives: 756 times

Unread post by RunOverByHubbard »

Isn't this the exact same thread theme as the one we have had here since April 29th titled "Realistic Expectations for this Season" which was started after the new coaching staff was named, free agency, and the draft?
These users gave a High Five to the author RunOverByHubbard for the post:
Dr Death
User avatar
Dr Death
The AssassinFernando
Posts: 4,295
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:51 am
Has given High Fives: 4257 times
Received High Fives: 1113 times

Unread post by Dr Death »

This team has a ways to go. It can't help but be better than last season. That doesn't mean it's going anywhere soon..... and I'd be surprised if it did.... and very happy if it did.
These users gave a High Five to the author Dr Death for the post:
Viper
Post Reply